One Big Mistake!
I was watching Oprah's program a couple of days ago. I really love this woman and truly have so much respect for the person she is, for what she does for others, for how she manages to do and say things to bring happiness to those around her, most of all, for her honesty and straightforwardness. She is doing something great for the American society and for others as well. She is calling out for the good in people; she is trying to wake it up somehow, and of course not only that, she is a woman of action.
Each society has its bad side and good side. All our countries are filled with miscellaneous issues. Some bad, some good, some embarrassing, some ugly and so forth.. We all need reforms. We all need corrections.
What I really like about Oprah is she's always trying to bring out the ugly bits and pieces in the American society, but I'm sure not with an intension to make her own people look bad.. she does so with the will and intent of bettering the ugly and wrong.
I am an Arab/Moslem and that is the way I feel. I do not look at the negative issues she brings out and feel disrespect towards the American society as a whole. According to what I have learned growing up form my religion It is not right to generalize or judge in a general or negative sense and it is not easy to do so either (long issue). What I see and hear does make me real sad though (applies to my own country and people, not just Americans or others).
I've always liked the American way of living, the system, and many other issues, but bearing in mind it is "not perfect" and nor is any other society.
For many Arabs, and I think amongst many other citizens of many other countries America was always "The best", a "flawless system" of freedom and unquestionable democracy. This is and was not true. I do not mean to be offensive here, but what I mean is what I wrote above. No one and no where is flawless or with no negative aspects. But I must say Bush made a real big mess out of America's reputation! The United States was and is much better off without him.
Now come to the main point. What I wanted to speak about was something Oprah said as she interviewed a couple who decided to bring a stripper for their son on his sixteenth birthday party! My mouth and eyes were flung widely open almost all through the show… And I am not exaggerating!
Through out most of the talk show (since there was another person on the show earlier, a former porn star who was warning young women from falling in her mistake), Oprah said (not word for word, but I believe what I write will serve the same meaning): "What is strange is that nudity is not strange anymore in our society. Women are not valued.. They are treated in a derogatory fashion as if they were a mere object with no value"….
It is not just in the United States but in many other countries, but I "think" that America takes top of the list on that one… the porn business has become a very large industry.
Arabs and Moslems are always accused of not giving women their rights. Our societies are governed with religion which does give a woman respect and rights, at the end of the day, it does protect women (long story but we can discuss how in the comments). I know what I spoke of about rights and respect it is not always applied, but the problems our women face are not as bad as the ones women abroad do, whether in America, Europe or the Far East or else where Islam is not part of the judicial system as a whole since only parts of the Shariah apply. More over the types of problems are not in extreme as experienced elsewhere.
Each society has its bad side and good side. All our countries are filled with miscellaneous issues. Some bad, some good, some embarrassing, some ugly and so forth.. We all need reforms. We all need corrections.
What I really like about Oprah is she's always trying to bring out the ugly bits and pieces in the American society, but I'm sure not with an intension to make her own people look bad.. she does so with the will and intent of bettering the ugly and wrong.
I am an Arab/Moslem and that is the way I feel. I do not look at the negative issues she brings out and feel disrespect towards the American society as a whole. According to what I have learned growing up form my religion It is not right to generalize or judge in a general or negative sense and it is not easy to do so either (long issue). What I see and hear does make me real sad though (applies to my own country and people, not just Americans or others).
I've always liked the American way of living, the system, and many other issues, but bearing in mind it is "not perfect" and nor is any other society.
For many Arabs, and I think amongst many other citizens of many other countries America was always "The best", a "flawless system" of freedom and unquestionable democracy. This is and was not true. I do not mean to be offensive here, but what I mean is what I wrote above. No one and no where is flawless or with no negative aspects. But I must say Bush made a real big mess out of America's reputation! The United States was and is much better off without him.
Now come to the main point. What I wanted to speak about was something Oprah said as she interviewed a couple who decided to bring a stripper for their son on his sixteenth birthday party! My mouth and eyes were flung widely open almost all through the show… And I am not exaggerating!
Through out most of the talk show (since there was another person on the show earlier, a former porn star who was warning young women from falling in her mistake), Oprah said (not word for word, but I believe what I write will serve the same meaning): "What is strange is that nudity is not strange anymore in our society. Women are not valued.. They are treated in a derogatory fashion as if they were a mere object with no value"….
It is not just in the United States but in many other countries, but I "think" that America takes top of the list on that one… the porn business has become a very large industry.
Arabs and Moslems are always accused of not giving women their rights. Our societies are governed with religion which does give a woman respect and rights, at the end of the day, it does protect women (long story but we can discuss how in the comments). I know what I spoke of about rights and respect it is not always applied, but the problems our women face are not as bad as the ones women abroad do, whether in America, Europe or the Far East or else where Islam is not part of the judicial system as a whole since only parts of the Shariah apply. More over the types of problems are not in extreme as experienced elsewhere.
The lack of fulfillment of those rights and all due respect is precisely is the problem. If Islamic Law were to properly be implemented women would not have suffered the way they did or still do to an extent. Most of the Arab countries are not totally governed by the Islamic Law. But when it was applicable women's rights were acquired to the fullest (that is at the time when Prophet Muhammed lived and after him the time of the four caliphs Abu Bakr, Omar Ibn Al Khattab, Othman Ibn Affan and Ali Ibn Abi Talib Radya Allaho 3anhoum wa2ardahom May Allah bless them). I intend to post something more explanatory about women in Islam and before soon InSha'Allah – God willing.
Now, Oprah is not an Arab, nor is she Moslem. But she believes in God. I realized on several occasions she stressed on that throughout many of her talk shows, but this time, in that specific talk show, one of her guests addressing the father of the boy (subject of the second part of the show) asking him: where was that inner whispering sound, or God or conscience or name it what ever u want to name it," so Oprah said, I call that "GOD"…
I do agree with Oprah, God loves us, he watches out for us; He guides us, only we are too obstinate to listen... And the result is: we loose.
This obstinate attitude mixed with pride was so obvious in that show. The woman and her husband were guilty and knew it, yet tried at the beginning to sort of put up the not guilty mask. But the human heart is kind and pure, all that was proved at the end of the show that pride sometimes leads us to argue in an irrational way; trying not to look bad gets us blind sometimes and drives us away from the truth.
Again, Oprah is immensely good at bringing out the good in people. She always had and has this loving yet straight way of confronting people. She tried through logic and discussion to convince people that they have erred, and that we all do, but it is never too late to go back and correct our mistakes.
At the beginning of the talk show Oprah asked the woman (who had a fake confident smile on her face unlike the man who did not look so comfortable) if she regrets what happened. The woman smiling strangely said yes I do. Oprah wanted a clear answer, so she asked again, which part do you regret exactly, the whole issue or the consequences. The woman replied: the consequences. Oprah still wanted her to clarify. The woman and her husband were taken to jail and their whole family went through lots of problems as a result. The woman said (trying to keep the brave not guilty mask on): I should not have developed the pictures. At that point I was like WHAT????!!! And the same went for Oprah and her audience.
Can you believe they actually took pictures of the stripper and their sons and guests! Problem is the stripper totally took her clothes off, and not only that she was actually rubbing her body against all the young men ages 14-16 and some older, but of course the birthday boy was the one with the most attention as he lay on the floor (pants unzipped!!!) with the stripper on top of him rubbing her ……!!!!! Worst of all through the discussion, the woman was defending herself saying she did not show her sons something they hadn't already seen!!!!
At that point I was shocked… totally bewildered by the statement! And that was when Oprah said that the problem is that nudity is not strange anymore…!
The man on the other hand had a somehow different attitude. I could tell from the beginning he was very regretful for what happened. He did not want them to get the stripper when he was asked at the beginning, but said he was under pressure from a bunch of teenagers and his wife! (Oprah, guests and myslef in shock!). And he also said that when the stripper started undressing he was shocked and stood from a distance because he did not expect that to happen …. OK WHAT IN GOD'S NAME DID HE DO TO STOP THIS MESS?????
That was when the subject of the inner voice was brought up…but he ignored it, he gave in to his weaker inner self… The mother said she walked out, she was not going to watch and she was not about to let her thirteen or fourteen year old daughter who was just about to come in the house to watch either. How come??? And why let your sons watch? Ok they might have seen this before, but why would any parent on earth be the one to initiate such a … I cannot find the words to describe this… I am not the only one who had that feeling. All of Oprah's audience at the studio and herself could not imagine "how a mother and father could do that". This was "The Most Bizarre" Birthday Gift I, Oprah, her audience have ever heard of.
The reason I brought this subject up was because as an Arab/Moslem, I have one question. Why are we always being attacked and called backward? Why are our societies always accused of being mean to women? Is this not mean? For a country to allow prostitution, for it to allow strip clubs, for it to allow the women to degrade themselves the way they are. All this leads to excess in sexual harassment, to arousing men's sexual instincts in a dirty and many times hurtful manner, to treat women and allow them to treat themselves as if they were mere cheap objects, more rates of rapes some accompanied by murder, for very young women to loose their virginity and get pregnant and then throw away their children not necessarily because they want to, but because they are not capable of taking care of them, or not responsible enough, or not ready, so many reasons.
In our countries, fear of God and shame protects women from doing such a thing and if they will do it, it will be a big deal. Not saying it does not happen, because it does, but the highest rates are mostly amongst the uneducated and unreligious people. We cannot have single mothers in our societies...not married that is, except in certain extreme conditions. Due to this fact, a woman fears for herself, for her image, she feels the responsibility and preciousness of her body… It is valuable and not for sale. She cannot go ahead and easily make herself cheap. And yes I mean "cheap". A woman must preserve her rights to have a decent life and to provide her children with dignity and rights, rights to having the minimum of a normal life. Even if problems should arise and divorce takes place "at least" the kids know who their father is and can at least get a minimum settlement of child support. Many a times the judicial systems are totally a mess in these issues (again because the Islamic Law does is not implemented), but the young ones will not live not knowing who their father or mother is. At least they know their families…etc…
You can go ahead and check out the details of that particular show here: http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200601/20060120/
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If the above link does not work, go to http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200601/tows_past_200601.jhtml and check out in the archives and check show on date:
1/20/06
Former Child TV Star Reveals the Biggest Mistake of Her Life
Finally my prayer to Oprah Winfry, a Christian American worthy of respect: God Bless you Oprah for what you did, doing and I am sure will continue to do.
If the above link does not work, go to http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200601/tows_past_200601.jhtml and check out in the archives and check show on date:
1/20/06
Former Child TV Star Reveals the Biggest Mistake of Her Life
Finally my prayer to Oprah Winfry, a Christian American worthy of respect: God Bless you Oprah for what you did, doing and I am sure will continue to do.
7 Comments:
I'm not an avid TV watcher but I have watched a couple of Oprah shows and she usually touches upon some very topical issues that face the american society. However, there are times when sensationalism prevails and an outsider watching the show may be flabbergasted at what he perceives is happening in the USA. This particular incident Oprah cited is definitely not a trend. As you rightly say, here are thse of us that make our community proud and there are those we categorize as the 'bad apples'. Unfortunately, it takes all kinds to make the world.
Is she really doing her show to make people better and teach them a lesson? Allahu 2a3lam. You can think of it this way, or you can say that she, just like the hundreds of other shows similar to hers, like to make a profit off people's problems. I mean, how many people actually do bring a stripper to their underage child's birthday? If it was a common problem, then fair enough, but if it was a very rare issue, then the only reason I can think of that she is bringing it on TV is because she knows people will get interested and thus she will humiliate those guests if she has to to get more viewers and earn more cash in the process. These kinds of programs literally aim at freak incidents or jaw dropping stories to bring on air. She names the people and shames them infront of a large group of audience as well as on national and international tv. Not that I'm sympathising with the parents who did such a disgusting act, but neither will I endorse the Dirty-Laundry shows.
That's just my opinion.
I would also comment on your pro-democracy statments you made in this post but I guess it'll take us out of topic.
salamat
Id it is,
I definitely would not generalize and I already mentioned that regarding what u mentioned about what an outsider may perceive of the issues touched whether on Oprah or other programs or media sources, but if I may, it is not just Oprah other news networks like abc, cbs, programs like the insider and maybe others as well show more or less similar issues. U needn't get the image I would think anything is a trend. My opening statement was "would not generalize".
But my opinion is many things start out small and grow big if not strongly stood up for and stopped at initial phases, just like diseases, if not combated may lead to fatal results. And that is what medicine and doctors are for after God's will of course. Many issues have grown big world wide (not just in the US) due to the underestimation and neglecting of certain issues. Id it is, I don't know if I were able to convey the message right. Oprah was not the main theme as it may have seemed. She is part of it only. But I was also speaking of high rates of pornography and diverse sex related problems in America. DO u feel that these issues are minor issues in the US? You tell me id it is or anyone else: Abc, cbs, insider, inside edition… etc, are they considered non reliable sources of information? Because honestly these and other shows and other sources are my window on the American continent. There are other sources of course but those were the ones I was relating to when I wrote this post.
There was also a simple comparison between our societies and yours leading to questioning by myself and many other Arab/Moslems.
Why is it that we are considered backwards? Why is it that we have to cope with unwanted intervention when it was not asked for? But at the end of the day, these questions I know the answers for, but I just keep wondering does your side know? Do they approve? What do most Americans feel about the way the Middle East is being treated? Why should there be any policies concerning Middle Eastern affairs in the way they are at the white house any way?? I cannot believe the way this world is going anyway, it really shocks me. It is a time when every thing has gone berserk to extremes.
Please do not get me wrong I do not mean to be offensive towards you or any other American who believes in "privacy" who believes in respecting others to be respected, those who will say what they feel is right (without being a psychopath since then the right will not really be right according to general standards of judgment, but according to their own benefits) regardless of who thinks what. Id it is, the middle east feels frustrated and angry… Very much indeed, and many people and governments are not helping to calm the situation down but are making it worse and worse by the second. Our people are under tremendous pressure… It is a pity.
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Alsalamo alikom Abdul Rahman,
First of all, I would just like to tell u something, God teaches us something very important and I am sure you are aware of it but maybe it slipped from your thought and maybe not. "Inna ba3da Al thana ithm" Suspicion leads to sin… I watch her program a lot, I am not the type that is empty minded and have nothing better to do rather than sit in front of television and watch gossip shows or shows that are a waste of time.
Maybe if u would have seen her show a couple of times u might have realized that she does not humiliate people. People are not stupid to humiliate themselves, unless if I have become too naive and am not realizing it! They go there voluntarily. If this woman was only aiming for cash, she would not have done so many things, she does charity work, she makes many give a ways through her program.. and much more, ok u and many others may look at it as a clever way of marketing and promoting her show, but still it is happening and even if she was, who does not want to be successful in what they do?? Again maybe I tend to always take the positive side of things and people, which al hamd lillah has not done me bad so far. I do get hurt sometimes, but I have not lost much al hamd lillah Allah kareem…
Abdel Rahman, this woman is a woman of action the way I see it. I did not ever feel she is humiliating any one, on the contrary she does what I wrote earlier cause I will not get into that again. The issue and the matter is as I mentioned to Id it is, some things start out small then grow big.. Just like many issues world wide. Neglect and underestimation may lead to growth of a negative issue that might have disastrous effects later on. BIG MISTAKE that was my title. And we arabs have done a not only big, but grave mistake. Many of us Arab/Moslems kept gradually abandoning our religion and heritages and adopting what is not men toubna (what does not suite us) until we reached to the state we are in now. WE have degraded ourselves to the extent we are being stepped on now! WE cannot put all the blame on others, we need to straighten ourselves first then stand up hand in hand… If we were all similar and all following the Quraan and Sunnah as Allah and his prophet advised us then the current state would not have been so. The issue is a large issue…
I did not quite catch what u meant by pro-democracy statments I mentioned in the post, but please feel free to discuss what u wanted and point them out.
Assalamu alaikum ukhti! La walah! I never meant to insult you in any way! I'm really so horribly sorry if I was in any way rude or seemed to imply anything against you! La walah! Everything you said I agree with, and as far as how you view such programs, it really comes down to your opinion and if you think it's OK, then fair enough. It's not that much of a huge issue anyway.
Teslami ya ukhti! Walahi i didn't mean to sound like I'm degrading you in any way! astaghfurllah al 3azeem.
Wa3alikom alsalam Abdel Rahman... :-)
YOu got it all wrong brother, I did not at all get the impression thta you were insulting me or being rude.. What gave you that impression.. I was just answering to what you said and that was all. I never get upset from opinions different than mine as long as the opinion being said does not contain any sense of rudness or foul language.. I am very open to differences. We can convince on another with the opinon closest to reality, reach compamise or drop subjects... It is as simple as that.
Abdel Rahman, I watch all sorts of programs, it is important to be aware of what is happening around us, many Islamic scholars also encourage that as long as the eye does not view what may displease Allah... It is a must that we mix with different cultures and be informed of what is going on around us from different prespectives.. For eample, I watch al jazeera, BBC, Eurp news and a bunch of other sources.. We must see things from the arabian prespective and from their prespective and try to form an opinion of our own and as best as we can not be bias... u understand my point? I hope i got the idea through to you.. mosh lazem nekoun one track minded 3ashan homma yesma3o leina we not get an impression ennena mosh fahmeen we wakhdeen saf da ded da we khalas.. fahemny???
You are always welcome here to say what ever you think as long as decency is maintained and you are and have been maintaining decency so no worries ya akhy :-)
Assalamu alaikum ukhti. 2aywa fahmik. Ofcourse we should keep an open mind and try to understand the other side's perspective before we can argue anything. I suppose I might be alittle too hot blooded than you. I am certainly not that tolerant so i do get quite angry when I watch a program about a woman that had a dozen other lovers while she had a 'boyfriend' and now depending on a DNA test they will determine whether the son is the child of the current boyfriend or one of the other lovers she had. Or maybe put someone on a lie-detector test to tell whether he has been cheating with his 'girlfriend' since 'that last time'. It really makes me sick and just makes me want to take the TV and throw it out the window! How can people live like this?!
Subhan Allah, it's an opinion thing. I don't think I will ever be able to watch those programs for more than 5 minutes without turning the channel in disgust. yallah, Allah yehdi al jamee3.
btw, it has been a long time since I heard the Egyptian dialect.
mulukhia bil 2araanib! :-)
Abdel Rahman,
I do get furious ofcourse when i see or hear examples of things of the sort u mentioned, but you know what it makes me appreciate Islam even more and thank GOD for it, and appreciate the people of the book who are able to maintain the decency of attitude as well. But unfortunately on all sides there are so many people who have simply drifted and let the distractions of the world trap them and distract them from doing and saying what is right. What is funny and sarcastic is they "claim" to be modern and intellectual. sub7anna Allah... Intellect means to be logical and rational, to be moderate and not extreme which is not the case in many instances whether amongst moslems or non moslems.
Allaho Alhady for them and us as well. Being able to watch is a matter of choice. But i don't watch for the pleasure of it as much as to be informed and to understand what is happening around me. And as I mentioned it creates a stronger sense of appreciation within me for what We are taught to apply in our religion. We are truely well protected if and when we follow GOD's law. It does save us alot of misfotune.
About the Egyptian dialect.. hmm why the molokheya bel araneb ya3ni??? LOL I never ate molokheya bel araneb.. can't actually imagine.. I like rabbits they r cute and cuddly... cannot eat one! must be something psychological.. But i do cook molokheya, my son enjoys it very much (and so do i and my hubby too)!!
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