You tell me!
Tankers versus civilian "CHILDREN" Only those are no ordinary children, they are "Palestinian children".. hmm so someone tell me, does that make it alright.. Are they by any chance are cheap shots.. have no rights like all children in the world? Again, where is the UNICEF??? I wonder.
How about this? Interesting huh? Military against civilian, Palestinian civilian...Woman standing aside unable to do anything but cry. Man beaten up by three armed men? Does this seem in any sense fair? What is this? Survival is for the fittest?
Three to one? and Three armed versus one unarmed?
Do Israeli children experience this? Where is the UNISEF??? I wonder!? What happened to Human rights? Or do human rights not apply to the Palestinians?
posted by Dalulla at 2:54 AM
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dalulla ya habibty, this is not all that is wrong with the situation. nothing is fai in this situation, but they are not really concerned about being fair are they?
as long as they are strong and are backed by a bully, they do not care. and the unicef etc. are afraid of the bully too. they just turn a blind eye, and concentrate on children hurt by natuaral causes. if they are unjustly treated by people, they don't want to get involved.
bully bully bully, bas a2ool eh, allaho akbar min kol kabeer ya dallula
fair is a fairy tale, we don't wait for our rights, we should go and take it
once i heared in a TV show a man speaking he was saying : "if the US wanted to kill all arabs, that is good for her and so that is her right, the question is, what the arabs will do to stop that?"
he was right, we shouldn't wait for our rights to come from anywhere, we should fight for it, another point is about organizations, organizations were made to put a legal mask on the decisions taken by super powers, remember war 1973 ?
all the UN decisions were first made in USA and USSR and when they are agreed they pass the decision to the UN to be signed!! that is how things are being done all the time there
some facts are disappointing i know, but i still have hope somehow
All what i can say is hasby Allah we n3ma el wakeel .
let us Pray for them in ramadan that God would relief them from the invadors
The problem is not the USA or the UN or Israel. The problem is the death of the Arabian Spirit "al-qwmia al 3arabia".
We have to fight for ourselves. Arabs have to re-unite and take a stand.
7asbona allah we ne3ma al wakeel.
7asbrya Allah wa ne3ma al wakeel...
We need to unite with the belief. That we have Allah. We need to all start having strong faith. We all need to give Zakat properly, we all need to put any diputes aside (el we7da el arabeya as wonderer mentioned). WE need to think of those around us more often and try to do the least, pray for them and ourselves.
But none of that will happen till we all become true believers. We were told before hand of what was coming, but many people especially those ruling the Arabs and Moslems seem to have drifted and forgot that some day they shall be judged in a much more severe way than any normal person. They are responsible for their nations and people. There is good amongst the people, but when will there be good in our governments?
I pray they wake up some day. Prophet Mohammed mentioned that there shall come a time when those who rule shall not be "fit" for their positions! And what do you know? It has come true! Subhana Allah, wama yantiko 3ani el hawa, """ ma howa ila wa7youn yow7a""!!!!
He speaks not of his (Prophet Muhammed Allahoma Saly 3aleih)own accord, it is nothing but revelation. (please note this is a close translation of the Arabic, but i guess it serves the purpose).
Allah yahdeena all. May God guide us all.
Doshar,
True.. Allaho Akbar min kol kabir.
And yes so many times, 7asbouna Allah wa ne3ma Al Wakeel.
Very strong images... thnk you.
As I understand that Islam is a faith based on love and compassion, I wonder why a Palestinian Leader has not used this side of Islam. Peaceful protest works! Martin Luther King here in the US, Ghandi in India and Mandela.
We are told in most faiths that love conquers all. The Palestinians need a leader with vision, not one that tries to match gun with gun, bomb with rocket.
There is no doubt that the Palestinians will have there own Nation again. What is in doubt is when, and more importantly how.
Again......thanks. Brutal...
Emory,
By the way those images are nothing. They are the least brutal images of the situation.
I'd like to ask you something. If all of a sudden you find someone in your home telling you that u have no right to get into it again. What would you do? What would you do if you were even deprived of the right to having a weapon to defend yourself that is compatible with that of your aggressor, what would you do? These questions are just minute in comparision to the situation in Palestine.
Can u please clarify what exactly u meant with the word brutal?
Lastly. The whole situation is all wrong. There should be no presence of Israelis on that land. The justified owners are the Palestinians. I see no reason why they should even be negotiating the matter! It is not even a balanced fight!! amongst the two scales, one weighs more, not because it is justified, but because they have more weapons and are backed up by the US. Where are the human rights organisations from all of this?
yes Islam is based on what u mentioned, but no religion agrees to oppression. Right? In Islam we are ordered to always resort to peaceful means. But in the case we are driven violently and injustifiably out of our homes or lands we must defend ourselves. Why is this not clear?
Emory i hope u did not think i was being aggressive in my last comment. The closing sentence was not addressed to you prsonally.
Mainly to the Zionists and the US Government, headed by Mr. Bush Junior, who supports Israeli terror although it is not where Palestinians are concerned. IT IS PURE SELF DEFENCE and a quest to free their lands of those Parasites who live on the account of others.
One time Bush claims it is a Chritian Crusade, then apologizes. Then later on he claims it is a war on terror, which obviously is a big lie, it actually perpetuated and still is, international terrorism and instability. Then later again he says It is a Holy war that God told him to go out for! What does your president think he is doing? Really?!!
If you want to see what i meant by true terror, injustice and incompatibility in self defense, please send me your e-mail on dahlia_sami@hotmail.com.
I have a slide show (picture story) showing how violent and merciless Isreali shoulder can be, and also last but not least, the least of least HUMAN!
Guys if anyone else is interested please tell me! I would be more than glad to send it over! But i would like to mention, it will hurt you in the heart. No matter what that young 23 year old did, he did not deserve what was done to him and the way it was done
!!
Dalulla,
I meant only that these are brutal images of violence perpetrated on the innocent by a the State. They are disturbing...they are brutal images that need to be seen, and I thank you for showing them to me.
Images like these can be found throughout modern history. Please see the Civil Rights struggle here in America. Look at the images of British oppresion in India.
My point is simple. Violence begets violence. If you look at non-violent struggles such as Gandhi and Martin Luther King, you will find much more success, than you do in violent struggles. Northern Ireland, or the Basque Separatists.
Love conquers hate. I think if the Palestinian people Non-Violently demostrated they would be better served. Even in the smallest ways, can great things be accomplished.
I believe Palestine will one day be it's own Nation, full and hopefully free. I beleive that it will be born from non-violence.
As for Bush....well I think he is a dangerous, often times irrational man. Possibly the most inept, unknowing, unenlighted man ever to be elected. I don't believe I am alone in that view.
If Palestinians stopped blowing up children and grannies on buses, maybe we wouldn't see pictures like these.
When the Israelis decide to leave, I guess they will. but please tell me when were children and grannies blown off? And what are the numbers versus those amongst the Palestinian infants, children, adolescents, young men and women, mature men and women and old grandpas and grannies. Was Ahmed Yasin not a grandpa? Was he not crippled on a wheel chair? Sabra and Shateela? Gaza? Ram Allah? Al Aqsa Mosque? etc etc etc
But as long as the Israelis choose to stay occupying what is "NOT" theirs, then I guess they should not expect anything other than that the Palestinians will resort to all means to drive the Israelis out of Palestine. To drive oppression and injustice out. To drive assasins away from their people.
I really do not get it? Every one knows that the Israelis are invaders.. Why do you even go into these discussions any way? How could you be on the side of an invader? Someone who has taken something that does not belong to them in the first place? What logic is in this, i wonder? What kind of ethics do you go by? Really?
What would you do if someone walks into your home and tells you while pointing a weapon at you: Tough luck I have a weapon and i have back up, so too bad, this aint your home any more. I am here to stay??? Tell me what would you do?
I truely wish you can for once answer to a question... straight without going into different matters. I honestly have a feeling you won't, because you never did in any previous converstations. But i truely am hoping you would Flanstein.
Pallywood. All is not necessarily as it seems.
http://seconddraft.org/movies.php
Infidel,
I was wondering who the question was addressed to. I'm sorry but i was not clear on who exactly you were referring to as "neighbours". In the Palestinian/Israeli issue, I would not refer to the Israelis as neighbors at all. Never would i even think of them as neighbors under the current circumstances.
They are simply and bluntly relentless invaders who have no rights to anything where Lots of people and myself are concerned.
This is a case of unjustified occupation from day one.
Why would the palestinians accept a part when they deserve to have it all back anyway? In individual cases, a person does not have to accept sharing their home with a total stranger. Would they?
I think even if they were two brothers and one decided to take over the other's home where the first brother paid in full for his home and is entitled to it, it would probablly be total injustice if he had to give in to his invading brother and share his property with him, just because the invader has more strength and connections. It would only create more anger, would it not? It would create hatred that even if contained teporarily, would eventually come out even in worse forms.
what do you think?
The invasion is the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The home that was invaded is Israel. The Neighbors are Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq.
Infidel,
Ok... that really sums it up.. We are never gonna get anywhere with this. Buddy.. you have a serious misconception problem, or someone brainwashed you with totally wrong information. Where about did you get this "The home that was invaded was Israel"?
I can't belive what you just wrote. Where did that come from? Since when has Israel been "the" home? Since when have the Israelis been the "original" owners of Palestine?
What happened to History? Or are some Zionists planning on changing Facts of History too?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008640.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761588322/Arab-Israeli_Conflict.html
http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/WarView.Cfm?WID=37
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